nice since the only electronic payments you can only offer is paypal. and ebay owns paypal.
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nsp9107 |
new rules at ebay... |
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Checks and money orders no longer allowed: Beginning in late October, sellers will no longer be allowed to offer checks or money orders as payment methods on
eBay. Only approved electronic methods will be allowed
nice since the only electronic payments you can only offer is paypal. and ebay owns paypal. |
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NIKON KIU |
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I know a bunch of members who list items and don't offer paypal. I guess they'll be out of business.
This will hurt ebay sales for sure. I wonder if they'll stick to it? Kiu |
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nsp9107 |
more rules | ||
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Limits on shipping and handling charges for key categories: Starting in October, eBay is enforcing maximum shipping and handling charges in Books, DVDs and Movies, Music, and Video Games categories. Minimum 4.3 detailed seller ratings (DSRs) required to keep selling on eBay: The vast majority of eBay sellers-some 96%-are well above this threshold. To protect the interests of all these sellers, starting November 1, eBay will no longer allow the few who don't deliver on basic standards of customer satisfaction to sell on eBay this is pushing me fast to get my own website going. jim |
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nikonnl |
ebay is in great problems | ||
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As stated in another thread on this forum ebay is in great financial problems. The european organisation is slimming down to cut costs. Hundreds of people are
loosing their job. Many commercial ebay-ers left ebay to start their own shop-site and many european banks are offering an easy and low-cost money transfer
system. Within the euro-zone bank transfers are free of charge. Ebay cannot tell me how I want my payment. Paypal is owned by ebay, thus promoted as the best.
But paypal is very unreliable. Ebay & paypal protect themselves, not their customers.
Nico |
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spokanecitizen |
eBay - Becoming a monopoly? | ||
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Does anyone know if it is legal for eBay to dictate how payments are made (non-paper/"electronic" payments) for auction items? eBay seems to ONLY
allow PayPal as a means to pay (other than local pickup sales which is not practical for out of area, interstate, and international sales). PayPal is part of
eBay and/or owned by eBay. Isn't this considered monopolizing? (This might be a great case for an aspiring attorney). We have a vintage collectible that
may bring $20,000 or more on eBay. After the dust settles, PayPal will cost us about 3%. That's $600.00 taken from our profit margin not to mention other
costs like listing fees, reserve fee, auction enhancement products, and end of auction fees all of which eBay collects up front. Frankly, I don't care to
give away $600 to PayPal/eBay when they are already making a profit on multiple aspects of the listing and the sale.
We have a brick and morter store (since '97) and aren't going anywhere. We have a 100% feedback rating with over 700 total feedbacks on eBay, and have been with eBay since the late 90's, so the argument of safety to the buyer is essentially moot. The argument that PayPal payments are "safer" than paper transactions may hold some water, but for eBay to not allow for example interbank transfers I think is a pretty blatant indication that they really are more interested in control (and profit) than safety. After all, interbank transfers and PayPal transactions are essentially one-in-the-same; It's just that eBay doesn't have any control, and more importantly, they make no profit on money transfers/transactions that they are not a party to. Worldwide, I would imagine PayPal does millions of transactions daily, and millions of dollars of profit are generated from those transactions daily. Why so greedy? |
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nikonnl |
what's legal? | ||
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What's legal? If you become a member of ebay you have to accept the rules of the club. Although those rules may not come into conflict with various legal
freedoms. I am an ebay member for more than 8 years with over 900 transactions (100% feedback) and I permanently had troubles with paypal. They ask fees for
listings and end of auction fees and use strange exchange rates. They also ask money for transfers to your regular bank account. So I always indicate in my
listings that I do not accept paypal. Bank transfers and services like Western Union money transfer (as a seller) are accepted. Ebay owns paypal; they only
protect themselves or their shareholders, nobody else! The proclaimed safety of paypal is nonsense. I am still involved in a court case. For whatever strange
reason ebay also limits shipping charges. I recently sold an item weighting in at 6 kilos; ebay allows me to ask a mere 7 euro! Again: nonsense. So, indicate
(and explain if necessary ) the various costs and payment options in your listings. For collectors ebay was and still is a nice source, especially for those
items that were never sold in the region where you live. That's why I continue to operate at ebay. If someone invents something better I'm in for it.
Finally: whatever ebay is claiming you may set your own conditions of payments, guarantee etc. as long as it is legal. Regards, Nico www.nicovandijk.net |
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spokanecitizen |
Is it seriously an effort to protect, or simply eBay greed? | ||
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Niko; From what I have gleaned from reading current eBay rules, and after speaking to two eBay representatives yesterday, eBay DOES NOT allow sellers to even
suggest an interbank transfer, money order, cashier's check, etc. within ones auction. It was explained to me that keywords such as "cashier's
check", "money order", "interbank", etc. are all caught by eBay's system, and your auction will be deleted immediately once the
keywords are detected. Currently, eBay forces you to use Pay-Pal (owned by eBay) or other "selected" credit card processing companies (which I would
bet are in bed with eBay). Why, other than profit and greed, would eBay want to control how buyers and sellers choose to pay for goods?
The argument that it protects the buyer is valid, but what about protecting the seller? I'm sure eBay understands that a buyer can cancel a credit card transaction up to as much as one year after the date of the transaction. In the scenario noted in my previous post, a seller would have a $20,000 charge-back, not to mention the loss of almost $1000 worth of eBay fees, commissions, credit card fees, etc. Good luck trying to resolve a rip off like that! I still say that this issue might be successfully challenged in court with possibly a very hefty punitive judgement against eBay. If I were a smart young attorney (or at least smart), it might be worth my time to investigate. eBay provides a service which brings buyers and sellers together. They charge a fee for that. My hat is off to them for creating an online venue for buyers and sellers to exchange goods and for all their incredible success. For ebay to start to dictate how those buyers and sellers will have goods paid for may be an infringement on certain unalienable rights, regardless of eBay's rules. Just because a company creates rules and guidelines, it doesn't mean they are all legal. You can check with Bernie Madoff on that. . . spokanecitizen@yahoo.com
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03/28/2009 12:38 PM.
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nikonnl |
paypal or not! | ||
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Due to European jurisdiction ebay cannot oblige sellers to accept paypal payments only (except in the UK of course
Regards, Nico www.nicovandijk.net |
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spokanecitizen |
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I don't know any German. How do you get around that?
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