I have noticed different trends when comparing YJ prices to ebay.
Let's make an example:
Nikon S3 2002 limited edition, no lens:
http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d77794887
Current bid is under 35,000 yen which is approximatly $300!!
There seems to be a few of the New Nikon RF cameras on YJ compared to 1 or 2 on ebay. Prices in Yahoo Japan are much more reasonable than on ebay,even if the
item is being offered on ebay from Japan!
True that some YJ sellers ask for 300,000 yen and get it(most don't sell at these prices) but then there are the incomplete units(missing lens,case,box...)
such as the one above that start from 10,000 yen,which NEVER happens on ebay. Well, almost never.
I am fond of the S4(as many of you know), one hardly sees any S4s on ebay and if so,the prices always start at $1500 or more!! Not on Yahoo Japan,most sell
around 100,000 yen including a lens(user examples of course).
So, the bottom line goes back to supply and demand...too much supply of new cameras and S4s in Japan and not enough demand to make the prices rise,althogh
lately, the prices have leveled off. The demand is considerably stronger on this side of the pond and prices are higher as well.
Another note: There are a handfull of ebay sellers offering this stuff from Japan but none sell at Japenese Prices!
Look at this offering:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Nikon-SP-2005-Limited-Edition-w-35mm-f1-8-35-1-8_W0QQitemZ220147190266QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15234QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
offered for $5300 which is approximatly 620,000 yen!! I know a member who can buy them under 400,000 yen!!!
Say something Jon
Kiu
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Posts: 231 (09/05/2007 09:24 PM) |
Like you said Kiu, supply and demand!
I'm very interested to see how much the S3 Limited Edition Black body will sell for! |
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Posts: 2140 (09/06/2007 12:42 AM) |
I would think it will go over the magic 100,000 yen number.
May be 150,000?? Whaddya think? Fred? Are you willing to come up with an answer? Kiu |
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Posts: 2120 (09/06/2007 03:58 PM) |
Who could possibly know where this is going in such a closed/controlled market. I have not been following Yahoo, what is the ratio between private sellers and
dealers? Does Yahoo mark the end of the dealers only market in Japan, or is it just more of the same?
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Posts: 2140 (09/07/2007 01:02 AM) |
Nikon HS Webmaster wrote: I opened my mouth and ended up selling one of these!!! 
I had to price soooo it would sell! I priced it right under $1500....sold right away!! Whaddyouthink??? Kiu
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Posts: 2140 (09/07/2007 01:19 AM) |
Bid's @ 61000 yen
Under $1500 is almost 165,000...if one gets ripped-off and gets under 115 yen/$ I KNOW it will sell under 150,000 |
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Posts: 231 (09/07/2007 02:48 AM) |
The seller states that the body has never been used. Always a plus for finicky buyers. I reckon it will sell for about 150,000 yen. If it was used, even only
slightly, you could knock 10,000 to 20,000 off that figure.
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Posts: 2120 (09/07/2007 08:50 AM) |
I think we have kind of beaten these reproduction cameras to death (yes they keep getting cheaper, and will get much cheaper, DUH!), I am more interested in
the prices of classic collectibles.
If the Japanese market is collapsing faster than the US market, then a buy in Japan -- sell in the US window, is open for dealers. This imbalance has existed for many years in the US to European market. The main difference between the markets is that Japan imported hundreds of thousands of Japanese and European cameras during the '80s. Europeans never did this.
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Posts: 231 (09/10/2007 03:51 AM) |
NIKON KIU wrote: Well, despite what we think we know, this body sold for 172,000 yen which is a shade over $1,500 ....
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